tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post4585993011044707889..comments2023-09-08T11:36:24.207+02:00Comments on Mat Rodina: Америка Построена на Предательстве СоюзниковStanislavhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-58122559621504230962009-06-09T02:28:27.883+03:002009-06-09T02:28:27.883+03:00Is it proper that I an American (at 69 probaly in ...Is it proper that I an American (at 69 probaly in your eyes elderly; but I don't feel old although I will admit to feeling a mite creaky) consider posting here? I certainly don't want to tread where I'm unwelcome.<br /><br />I once made a less than half-hearted effort to study Russian and as a consequence picked up only a smattering of a few words of it. <br /><br />Now I'm even more intellectually unambtious & lazy. Why not, I've been retired since 1970, since WIA when fighting the Communists in Viet-Nam? <br /><br />Oh yes, once, in 1964, only for a few days, I visted the USSR. Interesting place to visit. What did I like most about it? The five Russian soldiers whom I encountered on the Warsaw-Moscow train. Great fellows with whom I made the mistake of attempting to match drink-for-drink. I think I enjoyed their company.<br /><br />If you don't want me chattering here occasionally, please tell me so.LoachDriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01726623512107144532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-81134538511903526132009-06-07T22:44:59.459+03:002009-06-07T22:44:59.459+03:00Станислав!
Позволь мне внести маленькие лингвисти...Станислав!<br /><br />Позволь мне внести маленькие лингвистические поправки.<br />Нет такого слова "Ираква", не каждый русский поймет, что это.<br /><br />По контексту я догадался, что речь идет о стране ирокезов, об ирокезах, об индейцах племени ирокез.<br /><br />Ты пишешь: "американцы секретно заключили отдельный мир и дали Англии исключительные права обмена".<br />Здесь два слова лучше заменить. А именно:<br />"сепаратный мир" и "исключительные права торговли".<br /><br />В остальном все написано очень грамотно по-русски.<br /><br />Мы русские -- с нами Бог!<br /><br />Михаил КузнецовMichael_Kuznetsovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02175930729200278402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-4770442794612885452009-06-05T21:27:34.179+03:002009-06-05T21:27:34.179+03:00@Stan,
"Haha, how about this: I speak with R...@Stan,<br /><br />"Haha, how about this: I speak with Romanians who work for my company, they love Russia (and they live in Romania) and same with the Bulgars. Even the Poles I deal with, have mostly good things to say. So goes to the Slavaks. The few Hungarians I knew all said that once the early 90s euphoria wore off and they looked at reality, they had no problems with Russians and went back to trade and prosper."<br /><br />You are delusional. Sorry to say...Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-48565350067473709012009-06-05T20:14:03.385+03:002009-06-05T20:14:03.385+03:00--Poland, Finland, the Baltic States, the entire E...--Poland, Finland, the Baltic States, the entire Eastern European block annexed as a part of the shameful Teheran Conference deal ( just talk to any Hungarian, Romanian, or Chech / Slovak here in the States and ask them what they think about / feel toward Russia).--<br /><br />Haha, how about this: I speak with Romanians who work for my company, they love Russia (and they live in Romania) and same with the Bulgars. Even the Poles I deal with, have mostly good things to say. So goes to the Slavaks. The few Hungarians I knew all said that once the early 90s euphoria wore off and they looked at reality, they had no problems with Russians and went back to trade and prosper.<br /><br />You sit in itelligencia and as with most such, make assumptions of the world that have no baring to reality.Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-85527401149690640972009-06-05T20:11:25.358+03:002009-06-05T20:11:25.358+03:00--The most typical thing for a Russian blogger (le...--The most typical thing for a Russian blogger (let’s see if I am a prophet) would be to simply ban an opponent so not to have to deal with a different view.--<br /><br />You are still here, are you not? I banned a racist who spread vulgarity. You, well, it is fun to show you for the self loathing lefty you are...Russian...or so you claim on your own profile and then show how much you hate your own blood.<br /><br />--Yet, to a Russian mind, this logic makes perfect sense. Russians seem to be fascinated with the US; if you talk to any number of them, the conversation would inevitably turn to this subject, namely: the US has only one goal, which is destruction of Russia and taking over its natural resources, America hates Russia, etc. Notice, How Stanislav has already been shaming me for speaking up against the evil Russian ways… Very typically Russian.--<br /><br />And yet you claim to be a Russian yourself...actually, I believe that is your warped mindset that you project on a people you know nothing about but half truths your father or whom ever told you. My bet is that your only memory of Russia is that of a little child at best.<br /><br />I shame you for telling lies and expose you for the liar you are. Note, you never come back and try to disprove any direct statements I make, only, like a typical leftist, you do character attacks and broad generalizations of an entire people.<br /><br />--(I, for once, am proud of being a Russian, of being born and raised on the culture and the land of Pushkin, Tolstoy, and Pres. V.V. Putin)--<br /><br />And yet everything you say is to denegrate Russians, Russian culture, everything.<br /><br />I am tolerant of other views, I am not tolerant of the pure lies you spread and the evil you so do in slander.Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-47531917336419590182009-06-05T19:26:36.964+03:002009-06-05T19:26:36.964+03:00The most typical thing for a Russian blogger (let’...The most typical thing for a Russian blogger (let’s see if I am a prophet) would be to simply ban an opponent so not to have to deal with a different view. It is a very Russia way, after all, millions of Russians were killed by the Bolsheviks for simply disagreeing with them. As a Russian proverb says: “Let us beat our own kind so the strangers would fear us”. Very perverse, isn’t it? Yet, to a Russian mind, this logic makes perfect sense. Russians seem to be fascinated with the US; if you talk to any number of them, the conversation would inevitably turn to this subject, namely: the US has only one goal, which is destruction of Russia and taking over its natural resources, America hates Russia, etc. Notice, How Stanislav has already been shaming me for speaking up against the evil Russian ways… Very typically Russian. By suppressing descent and by channeling peoples’ fear and anger toward the US, the Russians hope to blame America for their own crimes and shortcomings.Piotr P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12260811604892063211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-27609805957140705642009-06-05T19:05:29.424+03:002009-06-05T19:05:29.424+03:00Fagel has brought up some very true points, IMHO. ...Fagel has brought up some very true points, IMHO. One doesn’t have to fulfill his/her sense of rightful patriotism and pride of his Motherland (I, for once, am proud of being a Russian, of being born and raised on the culture and the land of Pushkin, Tolstoy, and Pres. V.V. Putin) by trashing every other country and culture on the faith of the Earth, and calling his opponent names without any provocation just for the audacity of having opinions that differ from his own. Russian would be served well by learning a bit of pluralism and tolerance (for it is possible to be tolerant without agreeing with your opponent’s views, you know). This smacks of the true Soviet/Bolshevik approach, the one that worked so “well” for Stalin and Co. Now, on to the point of the neighbors who Russia has pushed around for centuries. Gee, where do I begin? – Poland, Finland, the Baltic States, the entire Eastern European block annexed as a part of the shameful Teheran Conference deal ( just talk to any Hungarian, Romanian, or Chech / Slovak here in the States and ask them what they think about / feel toward Russia).Piotr P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12260811604892063211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-50633823917086348382009-06-05T06:52:55.398+03:002009-06-05T06:52:55.398+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Ivan de Cowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00355907038233569686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-65656409173501890852009-06-05T06:06:14.138+03:002009-06-05T06:06:14.138+03:00I just wanted to say that I am sorry you don't...I just wanted to say that I am sorry you don't write in English all the time. Google's translation program gave me a headache. <br /><br />So, based on the comments, I just wanted to say that Americans learn history from people who rewrite history in their own way. History books when I was a kid are totally different from the politically correct crap I see my nieces and nephews read. (I homeschool my children. And yes, they read the original stuff when available.)<br /><br />The point I want to make is that propaganda is not only an American thing. The leaders and educators in every country teach what they want the people to know and suppresses the truth. To think otherwise is stupid. I am glad for the internet age and for people who share their views and easier ways to find the truth. <br /><br />Even in America, before the election, there were those who were telling all who would listen that Obama was spouting socialism and there was no way we could benefit from it. So much for America having the cream of the crop. America has been dumbed down and we have no one else to blame but ourselves.<br /><br />Don't misunderstand me, though. I may not like the policies of our president, but he will not be in office forever. I love this country. It will be here long after this president is gone.BaytownMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04422497985720041151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-33189213860664997192009-06-05T02:39:47.610+03:002009-06-05T02:39:47.610+03:00@Stan
1. 50 millions gold marks was an enormous su...@Stan<br />1. 50 millions gold marks was an enormous sum of money at the time.<br />2. The "chosen ones", bankers on the Wall Street, but nor representative of all bankers, and certainly not of all American people or its government, contributed $20 millions, a huge sum at the time.<br /><br />I still do not understand what you have to gain by trying to push guilt on all the Americans, especially when you KNOW who was behind the bolshevik revolution, and they neither represented nor represent the entire American people.Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-28218195324305674842009-06-05T01:18:05.121+03:002009-06-05T01:18:05.121+03:00@Cobra
--German Foreign Secretary Arthur Zimmerma...@Cobra<br /><br />--German Foreign Secretary Arthur Zimmermann facilitated the transfer of 50 millions gold marks to Lenin.--<br /><br />50 million was nothing in the long term. Even Trotsky, who had been living in a NYC penthouse and had a private car, while reporting $400 in speaking fees as his income, was arrested in Canada on the way to Russia. Wall Street made sure he was freed, or rather the big bankers.<br /><br />Even the propaganda was directly paid for by Wall Street who for decades wanted to remove the Tsar (just like they want to remove Putin) for not allowing them to exploit Russian resources and markets. Yes, in 1920s they had full exploitation.<br /><br />Go read Wall Street and the Bolshevki Revolution.<br /><br />Ok, now I am really going to bed.Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-6472560582002582722009-06-05T01:14:03.514+03:002009-06-05T01:14:03.514+03:00@ Cobra
The Wars of the American Revolution
Perh...@ Cobra<br /><br /><a href="http://revolution.h-net.msu.edu/essays/carp.html" rel="nofollow">The Wars of the American Revolution</a><br /><br />Perhaps the final irony of the French monarchy's assistance to America (and proving once again that no good deed goes unpunished) is that it led to the financial collapse of the French ancien regime. And the bankruptcy of Louis XVI was one of the major causes of the French Revolution. <br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution#Pre-revolution" rel="nofollow">Louis XVI ascended to the throne amidst a financial crisis; the nation was nearing bankruptcy and outlays outpaced income.[5] This was because of France’s involvement in the Seven Years War and its participation in the American Revolution.</a><br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">A History of the American Revolution</a><br /><br>Pages 374-376<br /><br /><a href="http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=170033&direct=1" rel="nofollow">2 Death of the Old Regime<br />The bankrupt monarchy</a><br><br />The immediate cause of the Revolution was that the French monarchy faced imminent bankruptcy. (This was partly because of the enormous sums it had spent assisting the American Revolution between 1778 and 1781 in order to discomfort the traditional enemy, Britain.)<br /><br /><br />Ok, enough for now, I am of to sleep.Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-78866402274319786312009-06-05T00:57:50.381+03:002009-06-05T00:57:50.381+03:00Piotr,why fail to mention all the interracial murd...Piotr,why fail to mention all the interracial murder in America?Because the vast majority of victims are white.Russian youth apparently defend their communities from outsiders.White Americans are terrified,for good reason,to send their kids to majority brown/black schools.What society is reviving?Some of Russia's neighbors are afraid of her?Good. Too bad Mexico is not scared enough to someday honor our borders.Russia is indestructible! Deal with it.hamilton xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05295759375401499051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-72946876375108058062009-06-05T00:46:05.693+03:002009-06-05T00:46:05.693+03:00@Stanislav,
German Foreign Secretary Arthur Zimme...@Stanislav,<br /><br />German Foreign Secretary Arthur Zimmermann facilitated the transfer of 50 millions gold marks to Lenin.<br /><br />And even assuming the Warburgs and Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. represent the entire 1917 Wall Street, which they did NOT, that doesn't mean the US is at fault.<br /><br />As I mentioned, this rhetoric may fly with Russians, in Russia, but it doesn't stand a close scrutiny by informed people.Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-6378262550125912412009-06-05T00:32:12.747+03:002009-06-05T00:32:12.747+03:00@Cobra
--So, please do not blame the US as a whol...@Cobra<br /><br />--So, please do not blame the US as a whole for the bolshevik revolution.--<br /><br />Unless Wall Street represents the US as a whole, in which case I do pity the US quite a bit, I have not. <br /><br />Read this article and then we talk:<br /><br /><a href="http://mat-rodina.blogspot.com/2008/09/sixevils-of-wall-street-and-suffering.html" rel="nofollow">The Six Evils of Wall Street and the Suffering of Humanity</a>Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-18273613423931525622009-06-04T23:52:01.398+03:002009-06-04T23:52:01.398+03:00Stas, you say they rarely write about this in the ...Stas, you say they rarely write about this in the US, why then is your article in Russian rather than english?Leos Tomicekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642791882622432741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-91585766303435619232009-06-04T23:09:36.788+03:002009-06-04T23:09:36.788+03:00Stanislav,
As a friendly advise, I would suggest y...Stanislav,<br />As a friendly advise, I would suggest you steer clear of fringe/nutty positions.<br />The article Pravda published, put this blog in the spot light.<br />It is up to you now what to do in this light.<br />You can establish yourself as rational/serious blogger and analyst, or not.<br />In the first case you will continue to get readers, and in the second case....Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-79565490812340559832009-06-04T23:04:17.252+03:002009-06-04T23:04:17.252+03:00This is the first time I hear that France went ban...This is the first time I hear that France went bankrupt due to the support of the US, and I read a lot...<br />Regarding the bolshevik revolution, it was neither the US gov., nor the US population who financed the bolshies.<br />We all know who did it, along the Germans, who hoped to push Russia out of the WWI.<br /><br />So, please do not blame the US as a whole for the bolshevik revolution.Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-500137661624105572009-06-04T22:33:54.302+03:002009-06-04T22:33:54.302+03:00The US, that is the ruling elites of both your par...The US, that is the ruling elites of both your parties, have been in the pockets of your banks, who have moved to control not only America and England (since many American banks are rooted in English finance) but the whole of the world and Russia was and is again a rising economic competitor.Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-54307314422629930112009-06-04T22:30:49.450+03:002009-06-04T22:30:49.450+03:00@Cobra
the French revolution was the direct resul...@Cobra<br /><br />the French revolution was the direct result of France's monarchy going bankrupt. It went bankrupt by leveraging itself to supply the rebelling colonies and fight England in other places. It did so in belief that it would have exclusive trade, instead England, the enemy got it. That is betrayal of France. Napolean rose to power because of the French Revolution.<br /><br />Dominos do start falling and one evil act lead to a lot of evil acts. That is the nature of the world.<br /><br />As for the "progressives" in Russia, actually, the US aggitated against the Tsar for a long time prior and it was Wall Street money that support the Bolshaviks. I wrote an article on that and there is an excellent book on that: Wall Street and the Bolsheviks. You should also read Red Republicans.<br /><br />Thanks to Amazon sending things overseas, we have access to a lot of books, but the first one is free on line.Stanislavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399899593777065344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-3840353209546858592009-06-04T22:29:41.943+03:002009-06-04T22:29:41.943+03:00Some of your comments about America may be true. ...Some of your comments about America may be true. Many of us are realizing this now and that is why we are buying your AK-47's and 7.62X39 ammo by the shipload! We prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02246193980676476474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-82702283025296215652009-06-04T21:17:09.465+03:002009-06-04T21:17:09.465+03:00Oh, how I wish I could read this...I suppose it wi...Oh, how I wish I could read this...I suppose it will have to wait till I can find a site to translate it :)<br />I look forward to reading it.mrshesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08935940573148075717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-47394219306527606722009-06-04T21:14:36.708+03:002009-06-04T21:14:36.708+03:00It is enlightening to hear an "outsider's...It is enlightening to hear an "outsider's" view of the situation in America. If the situation weren't as bad as it is, I might more concerned about the USA being laughed at. However, the truth is, I am far more concerned about what is actually taking place than who is laughing at us. <br /><br />There are many Americans that don't agree with what is taking place and obviously, even a government for the people isn't perfect. The problem is that the current administration, who campaigned on "less government" is the largest government ever. <br /><br />Sadly, much of what you have said about us is true. Our country needs a revival and it needs to start by putting God in the equation; not just in the equation but the first and most important part of the equation.janellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607917116790466724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-58549062772500651292009-06-04T21:00:11.654+03:002009-06-04T21:00:11.654+03:00I got it translated finally.
It is laughable to bl...I got it translated finally.<br />It is laughable to blame the French revolution on the Americans.<br />The French people were clearly viewed as better allies than the English people (despite the ethnic closeness) for a long time.<br />And by the way, the American people had an excellent relationship with the Russian people until the progressive movement (read bolshevik/communist..) came to power about the start of the 20th century. The progressive movement did not and does not represent the interest of the entire American population-it works against it, as it did against the Russian population.<br />And this points out one of the main psychological pitfalls of the Russian people: they have a messianic (and paranoid) view of the outside world...<br />While the Americans have some warts, they do not deserve the broad brush swipe this article took at them.<br />We better try to find common ground, because we have a common enemy...Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019578584768795401.post-45915052594291699682009-06-04T20:47:18.298+03:002009-06-04T20:47:18.298+03:00WTF...WTF...Cobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00587966380380826679noreply@blogger.com