Saturday, September 5, 2009

War with Moscow Saved Tbilisi

One of the twists and turns of fate and politics was the probable savior of Tbilisi from Tehran’s destruction, by the war with Moscow. Allow me, dear reader, to explain.

During the six days it took the Russian forces to respond to the Georgian genocide, crush the US trained force and capture Gori, it was discovered that the Israelis were directly arming and funding the Georgians. Never mind what this meant for Israeli-Russian relations, since Russia is Israel’s second largest trade partner, primary supplier of oil, gas and tourists. Through captured documents, confessions and an indirect admission from Jerusalem, it was discovered that the reason for this was the Georgian allowance for Israel to use southern Georgian airbases in the upcoming strike on Iran.

Now, this reveals something else about the absolute lack of intelligence at the Georgian top. There is no doubt that Tehran would retaliate with whatever it had. Of course, this would mean missiles and gas. Israel and its cities are prepared, with distribution centers able to provide hazmat masks and suits for every single citizen and plenty of tourists. Bomb shelters as well as advanced anti-missile systems add to the defense.

Georgia and specifically Tbilisi, has none of these and is absolutely unprepared. Furthermore, geographically, Tbilisi is extremely vulnerable to such hits. The city lies along the Kura River, girded by two ridge line on either side of the city. Any hits along this area and the heavier than air gases often used in chemical weapons, would simply slide down the hills, causing mass casualties.

Thus, if not for the war with Moscow, Israel would have sacrificed Georgia in its war with Iran, with hardly a second thought.

10 comments:

hamilton x said...

This is a very interesting observation and well within the realm of probability ! I would add that the Israelis were tied into and coordinated with American and Turkish interests. These "allies" have no real interest in the welfare of the Georgian people. I'm not sure exactly where Obama will fall out on all this;this was a project of the "McCain" wing of the GOP and that type of warmongering is no longer in favor with the public.Occasionally,our "fearless" leaders actually listen to us.

Stanislav said...

@Highlander

Care to debate the points or is that to much for you? After all, since you have a brain, should be no problem, right?

Unknown said...

brain washed russians
look what putin did with his own ppl
you can read it at GQ.

Anonymous said...

You could mention the fact that Georgia/Israel/US/Britain/Turkey and Saudi Arabia run the largest international Islamic terrorist training camp in the Panski Gorge in Georgia that they shipped from there base in Afghanistan to Georgia in 2003.
But I’m sure all that training and weapons was just to fight the “terrorists” we train and control.

US/Turkey/Saudi Arabia training and sponsoring terrorists in Russia, China and Central Asia since collapse of the USSR.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/15/551916/-Sibel-Edmonds-Case:-The-Central-Asia-Islamization-Cocktail:-Mosques,-Madrassas,-HeroinTerrorism

The outrageous plan to destroy Russia.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html

Bosnian and Chechen friends fighting US forces in Iraq.

http://thomasjoscelyn.blogspot.com/2006/07/demise-of-terror-master-role-of-his.html

http://www.serbianna.com/blogs/newspost/?p=1316

Stanislav said...

@Uta

Yeah, GQ, the "investigative" reporting that repeated a bunch of conspiracy crap. Russia didn't need a casa bela to go back into Chechnya, Chechnya invading the neighboring province Daghistan twice before our army goes into Chechnya....or is that to complex for you to figure out?

It is the US and its allies who attack everyone around who does not bend on knees and bomb peoples everywhere for "democracy".

hamilton x said...

Jack makes an important contribution. For those who want to believe Israel could not use and toss away the Georgians if needed, familiarize yourselves with how Israel did exactly that to its erstwhile Christian allies in Lebanon. Still, I personally do not believe Israel messes around here without American approval.

Anonymous said...

@Stanislav

Or the fact that they were being trained in Chechen camps in Afghanistan and Turkey and Warziristan region of Pakistan, Northern Iraq and Bosnia as well as setting up terrorist training camps in neighbouring Dagestan, buying up real estate and connections to the KLA in Kosovo between 97 and 2000 on a mass scale in other words they were preparing for a second war.

“In fact, a 1998 DIA report http://www.judicialwatch.org/cases/102/dia.pdf, exposed by the conservative group Judicial Watch in 2004 via a FOIA request in 2000, noted that Khattab was a "personal friend" of bin Laden, and that bin Laden sent Khattab to Chechnya in 1995 to "organize training camps for international terrorists." Three camps were established, and graduations were held every two months”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/story/2004/nov/defense-intelligence-report-details-al-qaedas-plans-russia-chechnya-and-wmd

“Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps.
[...]
Some of Sakka’s account is corroborated by the US government’s 9/11 Commission. It found evidence that four of the hijackers – whom Sakka says he trained – had initially intended to go to Chechnya from Turkey but the border into Georgia was closed.
[...]
Sakka’s lawyer said: "Just like there is money laundering, there is also terrorist laundering and Turkey was the centre of this."

“In fact, apprehended terrorists often hold Turkish passports - reportedly both fake and real. A quick google search, for example, demonstrates Turkish passports on terrorists captured in New York, Chechnya, Chechnyaagain and again, Pakistan training camps, and Georgia, Russia, and Kyrgyzstan. Many of the 'detainees' at Guantanamo also hold Turkish passports.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/15/551916/-Sibel-Edmonds-Case:-The-Central-Asia-Islamization-Cocktail:-Mosques,-Madrassas,-HeroinTerrorism

Stanislav go read Paul Murphy's book Wolves of Islam and visit his site www.retwa.com where you can sign up for a free newsletter updates via e-mail.

Яша said...

Funny that some religious nut thinks Moscow "saved" Tblisi from Tehran, since Russia is Iran's main weapons dealer.

The US wants to destroy Russia? I guess the CIA provides Russian drunkards and junkies with free booze and heroin.

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How cute Stanislav cares about Israeli-Russian relations, Russians have a special love for Jews in the form of pogroms and genocide. Maybe that's the reason Russia is selling conventional and nuclear weapons and tech to the mad Mullahs ruling Iran who BTW want to bring about the end of the world.

Stanislav said...

@Яша

How cute another not to bright neocon comes around.

Tell me oh master of all things political, how many nations has Iran attacked in the past 200 years? Here's a hint: zero.

Care to count how many the US has in the past 30 years? Lets see:

Iraq
Samolia
Sudan
Lybia
Serbska Republic (Bosnia)
Yugoslavia
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Panama
Grenada

And that's directly, we won't count the covert wars in the Philipines, Russia's Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Columbia, Hondurous, and quite a few others. We wont' count on what US armed Islamics in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Bosnia, Albania, Serbia's Kosovo, western Macedonia, Eritria, Yemen and so on are doing to others.

Yes, you have much room to talk.

By the way, in Israel, Russian is the 3rd main language and 1 in 3 are from Russia, with the Russian Orthodox Church being the 2nd largest religious body and biggest land owner.

Outside of arming the Israeli's enemies better than your so called allie, holding the Israelis on a string while Islamics bomb the hell out of them, what else have you done for your erstwhile ally? Nothing...you use nations and peoples and toss them aside as fits your capricious natures and wonder why so many hate you.

Anonymous said...

"I guess the CIA provides junkies with free heroin"
Well its not FREE, but thanks to our drug-lords (we call them democratic leaders though) in Afghanistan it is cheaper than it has ever been. It's not much of a stretch to conclude that flooding Russia with cheap heroin was part of the plan all along.